Marta Kauffman won’t ever omit her ultimate dialog with Matthew Perry.

In truth, the pair attached simply two weeks ahead of the actor’s unexpected passing.

“It was great,” the Friends co-creator informed Hoda Kotb in a Nov. 1 interview on Today. “He was happy and chipper. He didn’t seem weighed down by anything. He was in a really good place, which is why this seems so unfair.”

Perry—who performed Chandler Bing at the accident sitcom all the way through its 10-season run—died in an apparent drowning at his Los Angeles house on Oct. 28, his rep and a regulation enforcement supply informed NBC News. He used to be 54 years used. In keeping with a album of a Los Angeles Clinical Examiner file got through the opening, his explanation for dying has been “deferred,” pending the result of a toxicology check.

Kauffman remembered being “in utter shock” when she discovered of Perry’s passing.

“My first impulse was to text him, honestly,” she persisted. “And then deep sadness—so much sadness. It’s hard to grasp. You know, one minute he’s here and happy and then poof. And [he was] doing good in the world. Really doing good in the world.”